@MHver3. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. Some in the PAC are trying to push a couple of the others out in an effort to add 2 “better” markets for tv and recruiting without increasing the mouths to feed. Gonzaga is in for basketball. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. yes they are extending his “deadline”. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. There. Likes. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. Retweets. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. Retweets. Could also mean ND is rethinking. How to create a thread on Twitter and how to view. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. Even an Oregon and a Washington together don’t increase the pie enough to bring up the per school payout. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. MHver3. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. 31 May 2023 12:38:21. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. Mountaineer Steve. ·. Once again it’s in the media a few days later:. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. FSU is the most attractive maybe. @MHver3. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. Once again I return from a long absence and bring you info. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. OMG I was wrong. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. Likes. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. “@godawgs4 Not really. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48 Feb 24. Replying to @MHver3. FSU is the most attractive maybe. ”Log in. 23. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. . @MHver3. com. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. Meanwhile ND maneuvered their way to a sweetheart deal with ACC and was able to leave the faltering BIgEast. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. I’m packing it up. Huge mistake. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. @MHver3. Got a PAC update. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. In person. They are looking at 1. Washington was their next choice. No one has control. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. 4. 6. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. Quote Tweets. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. and. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. So at least more spots open. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. Baylor is too. Replying to . That’s all I’ve got. PAC will just expand with lesser brands and pay those schools peanuts to feed ORWA more for the duration of the next deal and then maybe B10 will come calling. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. 19. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. We don’t have the endowment they have. ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. @MHver3. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. We currently get about $4m for that same content. 8 of them are. 5m. I actually don’t want more western schools. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. @xtmountain. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. Things have escalated. Log in. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. 7. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. Might even see a Huskie or two. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good option. That’s it. Tweet about Oregon and Washington 1,843 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 3 mo ago by historian ScottS 2:44p, 7/27/23 Breaking from my source: Oregon and. MHver3 @MHver3. 2. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. MHver3 @MHver3. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. This will be my last tweet for a bit. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. 2. “@AveCope Big12 believes it will be able to offer $36-40m with OR and WA plus control of Tier3 tv rights. Stanford/Cal 13. Corey Wishnia. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. “ESPN has been quietly pushing for a B10/SEC Rose Bowl so don’t get too excited yet. 5% each. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. We’ve seen lots of tweets from reputable sources, but I’ve also seen a lot of interesting rumors from MHver3 on Twitter . "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. 06 Mar 2023 18:13:11Log in. But the upside of not paying for production for PACN and the possibility of additional revenues for leased games could see the deal approach the low $20m per team. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. ” MHver3 @MHver3. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. AZ has and AZSU problem. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. ”“@MHver3 If UA and CU aren't stepping up to the plate and contributing their fair $$$ share to the PAC, it's hard to see how they'll suddenly become valuable assets for the Big 12. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. That will never happen because these additions are based on valuation metrics. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. My source says it’s getting more and more likely a prodigal son returns. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. Found. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. 1. Their additions brought stability. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. It was $24. Sign upFwiw I’m hearing the ION Tv thing was a red herring fed to McMurphy and Kliavkoff is only a few days away from having 2 final proposals in hand to take to his schools for voting. 33. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. Taking the four will crush the P12. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. Ugh. 3. The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. 2. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Factions have formed. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. PAC is in an exclusive window with the 2 main networks bidding on B10 that expires next week. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. 131. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. 239. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. 2. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. 19. @MHver3. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. Replying to. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. ”MHver3 @MHver3. AZ too. ”“Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. Sign upSee new Tweets. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. “@BobOThomson I don’t really have a source close to that program but I can just reiterate what I tweeted a couple of weeks ago: Utah isn’t a priority and is very low on B12 radar”“@RChalk94 I’m not trying to get anyone to believe me. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. MHver3. Also learning that Stanford has told B10 they will join for a drastically reduced cut of the tv money. twitter. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. 9. Would need to probably add 6. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. The Big 10 should just bring in all the schools in the Pac 10 as a Western division. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. Up to 75% would be streaming. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. Quote. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. @MHver3. A few tidbits I did get:”7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 2. I actually don’t want more western schools. Feb 21. 11:22 PM · Jul 20, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Huskies have come back to the table. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Also the FB CCG. Talks are indeed dead for a merger. GIF. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. "Hearing that UConn is leveraging for an all sports invite from B12…and BY and networks are listening. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. ”Some drips of info hitting the bucket. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. Yormark has a vision. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. 2. Log in. One that seems to have a lot of steam is that Pac12 and Big12 leadership will be meeting Tuesday to discuss a full-on merger. Log in. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. ” March 7th. As did VT. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. 6. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. Learn more. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. MHver3 @MHver3. Staples: The realignment battle for No. @MHver3. @MHver3. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. Sign up. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. And they all already know the current numbers. Houston and BYU applications are in. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. $320m per year for 12 years. 3 — is made for TV. ”“@ChrisRPhillips B10 dreams for Oregon and Washington left and went to the Bears in Chicago. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. ”Log in. help. ·. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. That’s it. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. There. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. 159. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. It was $24. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. MHver3 @MHver3. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. MHver3 @MHver3. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. See new Tweets“@TreJacksonStan @kg4cy I guess that’s subjective. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @xtmountain. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. Gonzaga is in for basketball. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. MHver3 @MHver3. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. Likes. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. Retweets. Likes. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. Now it’s been twice verified. Big Papa RockChalkPac voted on SDSU and SMU again. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. 251. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told.